X Frederick ROBERTSDear Una (If I may be so bold)Thank you for your nicely worded request forinformation concerning Frederick you would besurprised how many enquires we get from people whonever say please or thank you, but first I have topoint out a few things. Sadly we do not have aphotograph, that is to say we may, there areliterally hundreds of photographs of officers, buttheir names were never recorded on the reverse ofthe photograph so from our point of view theyremain unidentifiable.The Cheshire Constabulary was formed in April1857; there are many thousands of records, theseare held by the Cheshire Record Office, Chester. Ias a retired Police officer and voluntary PoliceMuseum Researcher am slowly extracting theserecords. Cheshire Police Officer Enrolment Recordsare held under Reference CJP7 Volumes 1-5. Thesefive volumes are very large and in poor condition,run from 1857- 22 March 1913; the informationwhich you seek would therefore be recorded inVolume 5. The information regarding his marriageis retained in CJP24/2, 1847-1966. And with regardto his pension CJP20/2/1, 1857-1965.I say all this because I want to try and reassureyou that what I give you is as it appears in therespective volumes. However if you so wish, youcan of course have the records confirmed by theChester Records Office Archivist. But it would beremiss of me if I did not point out that TheRecord Office will charge you a minimum of £27 persearch per volume; therefore your total bill wouldbe £81, so please be aware. The Museum charges,for searching the three volumes are on a reducingscale i.e. dependant on the information recorded,the maximum amount payable is £10, whichrepresents good value. Your remittance is £10 andthis includes the photographs of the policestations (Altrincham and Sale), as we are workingon a trust basis pleases forward payment viacheque made payable to the 'Museum of Policing inCheshire' and forward it to The Curator, Mr. PeterWroe, Museum of Policing in Cheshire, WarringtonPolice Station, Arpley Street, Warrington,Cheshire. WA1. 1LQ. If you are ever in theCheshire area and you wish to visit the Museum itis open to the public on Monday and Fridays viaprior appointment.If you also read the history of the CheshireConstabulary "To the Best of Our Skill andKnowledge" which is on the Museum Web Site, underthe pull down menu on the left marked history. Ifeel certain that a useful picture can be obtainedof life in the force at the time, my own opinionis that discipline was draconian and those whostrayed outside the rule's were fined way abovewhat they earned or dismissed. Also therestrictions on their private life, an officer wasnot allowed to drink on or off duty even in hisown home. It all comes down to the fact that upuntil the 1960's every Chief Constable of Cheshirewas an ex military officer and they of coursebrought with them the military codes of practice.Can I ask you when you get a moment would you senda quick mail so I can mark of your enquiry ascomplete? If you have any further questions pleasedon't hesitate to contact me. Jim Talbot. Trusteeand Researcher, Cheshire Museum of Policing.Collar Number/Rank. Acting Sergeant FrederickROBERTS. At this point in time it was normal foran officer to have several different numbers inFrederick's case he had three. PC 506 was hisfirst number when he entered the Constabulary. Hissecond number was PC201; he would be given thiswhen he returned to the Constabulary after hisMilitary Service. And 1696 when he was made ActingSergeantBorn. 1890 Broseley, Shropshire.Date of Entry. 23rd February 1912Date of Leaving. 13th June 1917 (Military Service)Returned. 1st December 1919Final Date of Leaving. 26th March 1938How Discharged. To pension.Initial Posting. HQ Reserve, Chester.Other Postings and Dates. 12 May 1912 Altrincham,14 November 1914 Carrington Altrincham, 01 August1915 Sale, 13 June 1917 Consent given to join Army(on this I am assuming Frederick sought the ChiefConstables permission for Military Service asopposed to be 'called up', 01 February 1919rejoined Constabulary and posted Sale, 04 December1919 Timperley, 31 May 1925 Barbridge, 01 April1928 Aston.Miscellaneous Information. Previous OccupationFarmer, Dated service of 1 year 224 day's withthe 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards (Army No30024), Religion Protestant. Height 5' 10", Age22/2m, Eyes Brown, Hair Black, Complexion Fresh,Build Proportional, Distinguishing Marks Nil.Age on retirement 48 years 3 months. Total service26 years 4 months.Promotion/Misconduct. No Misconduct reportsrecorded.Weekly Pay. 23rd March 1912 25/1d, 1st April 191226/10d, 23rd March 1913 28/-, 23rd March 191429/2d, 23rd March 1915 30/4d, 1st July 1915 31/6d,23rd March 1917 32/8d, 1st February 1919 49/-,23rd February 1919 49/- 23rd March 1919 50/-, 1stApril 1919 84/-, 23rd March 1920 86/-, 23rd March1921 88/-, 23rd March 1922 90/-, 3st May 1925Acting Sgt.Discharged on a pension of £165. 4s. 7d. Per annumAwards/Good Conduct/Other information. 26th July1921 and 6th August 1921 Examined for the rank ofActing Sgt, Passed. 8th June 1927 Examined for therank of Sgt, Failed. (Comment Duties undertaken byan Acting Sergeant were no different to that of afull Sergeant, as Acting Sergeant he would haveworn 2 chevrons. And the only reason it wouldappear he was not promoted to full Sergeant wasbecause he had not passed the promotion exam. Evenin Frederick's day the examination were very hard.(English, General Knowledge and Police Duties)Marriage RecordOfficer. Frederick ROBERTS.Occupation. Police ConstableAge. 29 years.Condition. Bachelor.Place of residence at Marriage. . 37 Tatton Road,Sale. (Comment Tatton Road is the location of SalePolice Station, but I am not certain if the numberwas 37, or if this was Frederick's or Ethel'shome).Date of Marriage 20th December 1919Place Married. St. Pauls, Church, Sale.Fathers Name. George Roberts (Deceased)Fathers Occupation. Farmer.Spouse. Ethel BAKEROccupation. Nil.Age. 26 yearsCondition. Spinster.Place of residence. 37 Tatton Road, Sale.Fathers Name. Alfred Baker.Fathers Occupation. Engineer, Cheshire.