X Herbert PRICEDear Jill,Thank you for your nicely worded request forinformation concerning Herbert you would besurprised how many enquires we get from people whonever say please or thank you, but first I have topoint out a few things. Sadly we do not have aphotograph, that is to say we may, there areliterally hundreds of photographs of officers, buttheir names were never recorded on the reverse ofthe photograph, so from our point of view theyremain unidentifiable.The Cheshire Constabulary was formed in April1857; there are many thousands of records, theseare held by the Cheshire Record Office, Chester.As a retired Police officer and voluntary PoliceMuseum Researcher I am slowly extracting theserecords. Cheshire Police Officer Enrolment Recordsare held under Reference CJP7 Volumes 1-5. Thesefive volumes are very large and in poor condition,run from 1857- 22 March 1913; the informationwhich you seek would therefore be recorded inVolume 5. The information regarding his marriageis retained in CJP24/2, 1847-1966. And with regardto his pension CJP20/2/1, 1857-1965.I say all this because I want to try and reassureyou that what I give you is as it appears in therespective volumes. However if you so wish, youcan of course have the records confirmed by theChester Records Office Archivist. But it would beremiss of me if I did not point out that TheRecord Office will charge you a minimum of £27 persearch per volume; therefore your total bill wouldbe £81, so please be aware. The Museum charges,for searching the three volumes are on a reducingscale i.e. dependant on the information recorded,the maximum amount payable is £10, whichrepresents good value. Your remittance is £10 andas we are working on a trust basis please forwardpayment by cheque made payable to 'The Museum ofPolicing in Cheshire' and forward it to TheCurator, Mr. Peter Wroe, Museum of Policing inCheshire, Warrington Police Station, ArpleyStreet, Warrington, Cheshire. WA1. 1LQ.If you also read the history of the CheshireConstabulary "To the Best of Our Skill andKnowledge" which is on the Museum Web Site underthe drop down menu marked 'History', I feelcertain that a useful picture can be obtained oflife in the force at the time, my own opinion isthat discipline was draconian and those whostrayed outside the rule's were fined way abovewhat they earned or dismissed. Also therestrictions on their private life, an officer wasnot allowed to drink on or off duty even in hisown home. It all comes down to the fact that upuntil the 1960's every Chief Constable of Cheshirewas an ex military officer and they of coursebrought with them the military codes of practice.I trust you will enjoy what follows and can I askyou when you get a moment would you send a quickmail so I can mark of your enquiry as completed.If you have any further questions please don'thesitate to contact me.Jim Talbot. Trustee and Researcher, CheshireMuseum of Policing.Collar Number/Rank. PC139 Herbert PRICEBorn. 1884, Wem, Salop (Shropshire)Date of Entry. 23rd April 1910Date of Leaving. 27th July 1935Final Date of Leaving. 27th July 1935How Discharged. To pensionInitial Posting. HQ Reserve Chester.Other Postings and Dates. 22nd May 1910 New Ferry,1st September 1915 Ellesmere Port, 1st May 1920Great Boughton, 01 October 1925 Christleton.With regard to these postings, the only individualpolice station that I cannot pinpoint is withinGreat Boughton, which is basically the areasurrounding Chester and it could have been apolice house i.e. a family home with a Stationattached to it. I have attached photographs of NewFerry Police Station, Ellesmere Port and the one Ithink you will be very pleased with isChristleton, which in essence was a rented cottagefor use by the officer and his family, but alsoused as a Police Station. You will see on thelarge photograph, which was taken early in 1900, aplaque above the main door this fully confirmsthat it belonged to the police. And is withoutdoubt where Herbert would have left from on adaily basis to carry out his police duties in1925, it would have remained this way until it wassold, probably in the 1970's. The series of 4pictures, shows 'then and now' and as you can seeit has been altered somewhat and of course nolonger used as a Police Station, but as a privatedwelling.Miscellaneous Information. Previous Occupation,Engine Fireman, Religion Protestant, Height 5' 9",Age 26, Eyes Hazel, Hair Light Brown, ComplexionFresh, Build Proportional. Distinguishing MarksNil. Age on retirement 51 years 3 months. Totalservice 25 years 96 days. Died 23rd October1938,aged 54 years 6 months.Misconduct. 5th May 1911, 2 charges (1) Neglect ofduty in not visiting or properly examining St.Johns Church, Lower Bebington, between 12 midnight and 6am and thereby discovering that theChurch had been broken into. (2) Falsely tellinghis Inspector that he had visited the said Churchat 2.15am and 5am and found all doors and windowssecure, Fined 3/6d and severely reprimanded.Comment. I would not look upon this misconductwith any alarm whatsoever, basically because nomatter whom the police officer was he could notwin in this situation, it was down to the ChiefConstable whether or not he believed him, and inthis case he didn't. Right up to the mid 1970'sofficers were still being charged with thisoffence of failing to find property that had beenbroken into during their night shift, (i.e.neglect of duty) the officer having come off nightduty would be summoned to return to work toexplain why he had not found the break in. It onlystopped when some very brave officers decided thatunder the then regulations an officer could claimfour hours extra pay if he was recalled to dutybefore he had received his regulation 11 hoursbreak between duties. Recall to duty soon stoppedafter the Federation took the Chief Constable toCourt and won.Promotion. Non promotion recorded.Weekly Pay. 23rd April 1910 25/1d, 23rd April 191126/3d, 1st April 1912 29/2d, 23rd April 191229/2d, 23rd April 1913 30/4d. 23rd April 191531/6d, 1st July 1915 32/8d. 23rd April 191733/10d. 30th September 1918 40/10d, 10th November1918 51/-, 1st April 1919 86/-, 23rd April 191988/-, 23rd April 1920 90/-, 23rd April 1927 92/6d.Discharged on a pension of £163. 13s. 3d.Total time on pension 3 years 96 days.Total pension received £504. 13s. 9d.Awards/Good Conduct/Other information. No GoodConduct reports recorded. Addresses taken fromCensus returns. 1891 3 Castle Street, MonksCoppenhall, Crewe, Cheshire. 1901 19 Broom Street,Monks Coppenhall, Crewe, Cheshire. 1911 189Chester Road, New Ferry, Wirral.Marriage RecordOfficer. Herbert PRICEOccupation. Engine FiremanAge. 24 yearsCondition. BachelorPlace of residence at Marriage. CreweDate of Marriage. 13th December 1908Place Married. St. Pauls Church, Crewe, Cheshire.Fathers Name. John PRICEFathers Occupation. CarterSpouse. Ethel COOKEOccupation. NilAge. 22 yearsCondition. SpinsterPlace of residence. CreweFathers Name. Not recordedFathers Occupation. Not recorded.